OC Supervisors Leave it to Cities and Judge to Find New Homeless Shelter Sites

April 3, 2018 - Finding Carter

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Orange County has run out of room during a puncture homeless shelters, and a county’s tip dual inaugurated officials pronounced Monday it’s adult to city officials and sovereign Judge David O. Carter to take a lead in elucidate a problem.

“We need some-more puncture shelters,” pronounced Andrew Do, authority of a county Board of Supervisors, during a open contention in a supervisors’ assembly room.

“We have a problem. It is a problem that we all have unsuccessful to address…We don’t have sufficient capacity,” he said. And some of a existent shelters don’t accommodate a smallest authorised standards for sheltering people with disabilities, he added.

Do and Vice Chairman Shawn Nelson emphasized they support anticipating new preserve locations and would emanate a new preserve if a viable plcae is presented to them. But Do pronounced it’s adult to a cities, that have consistently opposite new puncture shelters for singular group and women, to find those locations.

“I am for a solution,” Do pronounced Monday. “I only need cities to come adult with alternatives for us to select from.”

The cities substantially will never concede shelters on their own, Nelson said, adding it’s now adult to Carter. The decider recently pronounced a necessity has left abused women and exceedingly infirm people on a streets though a protected place to nap during night.

“I certain [would] like to put a round in Judge Carter’s justice and say, ‘Look, we know, you’ve been flattering confidant about observant you’re peaceful to import and let some people feel a wrath,” Nelson said. He pronounced Santa Ana, Anaheim, and Fullerton should be free from adding new shelters since they already horde puncture shelters.

“There’s a lot of people that have shouldered zero,” Nelson said, referring to puncture shelters for singular group and women, a infancy of homeless people.

“And I’m extraordinary if they’ll ever shoulder any [shelters], to be honest…Unless they’re forced to.”

The city of Irvine has zoned a 100-acre square of county-owned skill for a homeless shelter, and underneath state law a city can't retard a county from putting a preserve there as prolonged as a county follows certain procedures.

Last week, Nelson and other supervisors killed skeleton to put a preserve there after a open backlash.

Do and Nelson hold a open contention after a 3 other supervisors unsuccessful to uncover adult Monday for an puncture house assembly to plead homeless shelters. Do had given a house 4 days notice of a meeting. Without a infancy of supervisors present, no central assembly could be held.

The contention came in allege of a Tuesday morning sovereign justice conference on a emanate with Carter and city officials from opposite a county.

Carter, who is presiding over sovereign lawsuits about Orange County’s preserve shortage, regularly has visited existent comforts and has pronounced a county needs stretched homeless preserve options.

The decider has been determining either to emanate an sequence banning cities and a county from enforcing anti-camping and indolence laws opposite homeless people. Precedent from a U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals says it’s unconstitutional to make laws opposite homeless people that criminalize destined behaviors they need to survive, like sleeping, when there’s a necessity of adequate preserve beds.

Carter gave county and city officials 7 weeks to figure out where 300 to 400 proxy puncture preserve beds competence go on county land. And about dual weeks ago, he called on county officials to work collaboratively with city officials on solutions, observant he’d cite not to have to start arising orders. He set Tuesday’s 9 a.m. conference date during a Santa Ana Federal Court building to plead their plans.

Nelson pronounced internal inaugurated officials have any inducement not to try to find new preserve space.

“Anybody that wants to hang their neck out for this emanate is gonna have zero to uncover for it though a cut-off head,” pronounced Nelson. “There’s no prerogative for even perplexing to get concerned in this.”

As an example, he forked to Supervisor Lisa Bartlett, who voted to try putting shelters in 3 cities. “Lisa stranded her neck out and done a tough vote. She came within an in. of removing recalled. Why? Because she only acknowledges there’s a problem, and wants to attend in a discussion. And a response is ‘how brave you?’ ” Nelson said.

“I told a decider what was gonna happen. It did,” Nelson said. “You know, if we was a flippant meant guy, I’d contend we poked everybody on purpose only to infer a point. There’s substantially a small bit of that that’s true. But it was sincere.”

Regarding pushback opposite shelters from Supervisor Todd Spitzer and city officials in Irvine, Costa Mesa, and elsewhere, Nelson added: “Why wouldn’t internal politicians mount adult and explode [against due shelters]? It’s really popular. [It] looks like we caring about your constituents.”

Nelson and 3 other supervisors voted Mar 19 to try fixation puncture homeless shelters in Irvine, Huntington Beach and Laguna Niguel. But for days, as an indignant and aroused recoil grew, Nelson and a other supervisors didn’t report how a shelters would work and what manners would be in place for issues like sex offenders and drugs. Nelson pronounced days after conjunction would be allowed.

An estimated 2,000 opponents of a due Irvine puncture preserve incited out to criticism during a supervisors’ Mar 27 meeting and a supervisors voted to kill all 3 preserve proposals.

Monday’s supervisors contention came as city and county officials began to immigrate about 200 homeless people from a a Santa Ana Civic Center. 

Referring to a other supervisors, Nelson pronounced during Monday’s discussion: “I don’t know since all of a colleagues aren’t here. we have some suspicion.”

At another indicate in a discussion, he said, “I don’t know since we don’t have a quorum. But, figure it out.”

In a content summary after Monday’s meeting, Bartlett told Voice of OC she could not attend a supervisors’ contention since she had a formerly scheduled assembly in her district about a county-operated Prima Deshecha Landfill  with city staff, a landfill expert, and a mayor and mayor pro tem of San Juan Capistrano.

“I creatively attempted to reschedule though satisfied it would be subsequent month or so to get [it] behind on a calendar,” Bartlett wrote.

The other dual supervisors who didn’t attend – Spitzer and Michelle Steel – didn’t lapse content messages seeking why.

At a meeting, Do and Nelson, as good as members of a public, criticized Spitzer, observant he churned adult fears from a open about homeless people formed on fake information.

“Labeling all homeless people as criminals, drug addicts, sex offenders – this fear mongering of stupidity entrance from some of a officials leads a village to hatred this category of people,” pronounced Lou Noble, a homeless disciple who mostly speaks during Board of Supervisors meetings.

“It is unhappy how myth works when people are ignorant to all a facts. We need to remember that Hitler used a same tactics, when people [were] preoccupied and misinformed. And we all contingency remember that hatred and God don’t mix.”

Do pronounced Spitzer engendered “fear in a village by observant these [homeless people] are a misfortune of a worst, and bringing adult fake issues like [public commenters] mentioned earlier.”

“Instead of perplexing to monger fear, let’s work out a solution,” Do said.

Among a things Spitzer claimed was that new shelters would move sex offenders to a village and bluster children’s safety. Days after Spitzer’s remarks, Nelson said publicly no sex offenders would be authorised during a due Irvine shelter.

One of a open commenters, homeless disciple Tim Houchen, pronounced a county has prolonged had a devise to residence homelessness, famous as a Ten Year Plan to End Homelessness, though that it appears to have been abandoned.

Houchen asked when it was abandoned, though perceived no answer.

The final annual refurbish to supervisors about either a 10-year devise has been followed appears to have been in 2013, according to county records.

And this January, during Do’s suggestion, a supervisors deleted a 10-year devise from a goals of a county’s homelessness elect though a deputy devise to revoke homelessness.

During Monday’s discussion, Nelson asked county staff to ready a map or list of existent homeless shelters and services in Orange County. And he remarkable that areas famous as SB 2 zones in any city and in unincorporated county areas, privately concede puncture homeless shelters to be built there, with small to no ability for cities to retard it.

Voice of OC published a map with both forms of information Monday morning before a supervisors’ meeting. To see a map, click here

Members of a open who spoke during Monday’s supervisors’ contention called on a supervisors to speak about a existence of homeless people.

“I consider we need to contend in a really certain way, you’ve been there, you’ve seen people in wheelchairs vital on a streets,” pronounced Mike Robbins, an Anaheim proprietor and disciple for homeless people.

“You’ve talked to them. Many are mentally handicapped. And we have to say, ‘We need to assistance them now.’ Those are a kinds of things we need we to contend during a city legislature meetings to a people there.”

Carter has remarkable some of a people who changed from a Santa Ana riverbed homeless stay into motels got jobs as baristas, plate washers, and other professions, and others reunited with their family.

Nick Gerda covers county supervision and Santa Ana for Voice of OC. You can hit him at ngerda@voiceofoc.org.

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